Breaking Into Hollywood - Find your inner spirit animal and run!

This episode highlights the experiences of Taylor Leigh Ewards and Brittany Carr, two talented actresses breaking into the entertainment industry. They discuss their early aspirations and how they knew they wanted to pursue acting. The guests explain the challenges they encountered when moving to Los Angeles, including financial struggles and the need to find creative ways to survive. Despite the obstacles, they remain passionate about their craft and are determined to succeed.

Host KC Carnage (@iamkccarnage), Taylor Leigh Edwards (@TaylorLeighEdwards), and Brittany Carr (@Withlove_brittany) 

Chapters

• 6:27 Struggles of pursuing a career.
• 12:01 Audition stories can be cringe-worthy.
• 17:27 Be authentic in auditions.
• 24:11 Dream co-stars and on-set kisses.
• 28:06 Prioritize creativity and follow bliss.
• 31:29 Show up for yourself.

Transcript

00:00 SPEAKER_02 How do you feel like you personally go about setting yourself apart? I would say the only way to, because I audition for roles all the time and I see my twins booking them. Like they're going to my twin, kitty girl. But I think the only way to do that is really with your authenticity and just lean into what it is. That's what I've learned and that's what I'm trying to do more and more of over the years. Because a lot of times they don't know what they want. You got to show them what it is.

00:59 SPEAKER_00 What up, what up, what up, what up y'all. Welcome to That's It, That's All. My name is Kasey Carnage and I got a few guests here today. I got my girls on the couch. We got Taylor Lee Edwards, AKA Black Girl with Curls, AKA Dallas Bride. We also got Brittany Carr here, AKA Southern Belle, AKA Ms. Sweet Tea. Okay. And today I want to talk about breaking in the business. They are both beautiful actresses. They are also some of my friends who I think are some of the most talented friends ever. And one thing about this is we definitely want to showcase what is going on in our community. And as black women, we take up a lot of space and we do a lot of great stuff. So I want to shoot some questions over. I want to get a chance to know you guys and them to know what you guys are doing. So I want to ask this, did you guys know acting was going to be your field, breaking into

01:57 SPEAKER_02 Hollywood? Yes. I definitely knew this was what I wanted to do. When I was young, I used to tell my mom, I want to be like Barbie. You know how she can change her outfit and then she can have a new profession? Like, honey, she a doctor, she a lawyer. And then when I got older, I was like, I think I want to be an actress. That's the only way you can actually do that. So yeah, that's kind of how it started. And then from there, I just started doing theater pretty young, a lot of theater in school. And then by the time I was 18, I was like, I'm ready to move to LA. So yeah, I've been here a really, really long time. But I've done many other things like in the business. I also was a dancer as well. And that kind of took me a different path for a little while. And then I came back to it.

02:48 SPEAKER_01 Nice, nice. What about you, Brittany? Well, I didn't always want to be an actress. I wanted to be a high fashion runway model. OK, OK, OK. But it was mostly because I was tall. I grew up tall. I was always the giraffe, the tall one in the class. Not giraffe. Yes, girl, they call me giraffe. I wanted to do runway modeling. And I always felt like I wanted to do acting. But I don't know, I always just wanted to be known as a model. But I was working with an agency back home, Millie Lewis. And the instructor was saying, no, you're not a high fashion model. Try commercial. And I was like, I don't want to do commercial. Hater. Hater. I was like, I don't want to do commercials. But later on, I ended up moving out here. And it just was like acting because modeling didn't really pay, especially like runway. So it was just like acting from there on out. And now acting has my heart. And I still want to get back into modeling. But it's been acting.

03:46 SPEAKER_00 I mean, your pictures are fierce. Your pictures are fierce. I've seen them. I said, OK, pretty. Get it, crew. OK, well, you guys are from both from Texas, Texas, South Carolina, correct? And how has that been like transitioning into getting into this field?

04:02 SPEAKER_02 Like what has that process been for you? I can say it's been a long road, honey. It's been difficult. It's just it's just this business. You know how they say the game is sold, not told. OK, sold, not told. Sold, not told, honey. You got to pay to play. You know, like you have to kind of you have to really moving from I don't know how it was for you, but moving from Dallas, L.A., there was also that there was that initial shock of it's expensive, you know. And then for the first couple of years, you have to get your head around, how am I going to stay alive? You know, how am I going to be able to pay rent, eat? You can't even begin to think like paying for headshots. First of all, let me tell you something.

04:44 SPEAKER_00 I literally like only ate happy during happy hour. When I first moved out here. No, seriously, like that is a true thing about figuring out how to be sustainable in your dreams, go after what you want, but also survive and not die. Like, let's talk about like not dying. So like literally one of my tricks was I used to literally only eat during happy hour and I would save whatever I was eating or like, you know, you go to shop and stuff like that. But like also to like I didn't have Internet like my first apartment. I didn't have Internet. I was like, I had just enough for that rent in Koreatown. And that was it. Like, we're here. So it was just like it was also my office. Like Starbucks was my office. Like, so just kind of like, well, I'm here. I got to eat what I want. So I understand that. But continue. I didn't mean to cut you off. But I was like, that's true story.

05:30 SPEAKER_02 Girl, that is OK, because I can relate. Honestly, when I got here, I was at I studied at Cal State, L.A. And my best friend and I, girl, we were so broke back in the day. I know everybody had, you know, a broke college experience. You know, everybody is different levels of broke. Like we was broke and broke, broke, broke. And we would do stuff like look at the school calendar and be like, oh, Chicano Studies is having a meeting. I bet they're going to have food. Go. And she was a singer and I was an actress. You know what I mean? And we were trying to, you know, we were trying to go to little industry events when we weren't in class. And like we would put our pennies together. Like you got I'm like, I've got seven dollars. You've got ten dollars for the week. You know, like we're going to put this in the tank. We're going to buy tortillas, rice, beans. Oh, yes. I mean, that could work. I got that partner crying. Yes. So that was like the beginning. And honestly, like that's that part. People don't talk about what that income barrier is to entering this business. Like, you know, people talk about sleeping in their car and all that stuff. Like as you know, I'm a little that's a little scary. That's a little scary. What is it? Tyler Perry did did that. It's left in his car. I mean, as a young woman, I didn't even have no car, you know, at the time. So you have to kind of get your world acclimated before you can get before you can even enter the business, because you have to. To be honest, you have to take classes, you have to pay for headshots. You have to, you know, go to workshops. You want to go to networking events, you want to look halfway decent. You know.

07:12 SPEAKER_01 So it was a lot of just getting my life together in order to even play. OK, OK, OK. What about you, Brie? My experience first coming here was really hard, too. Just like my first year, I moved five times and I had a roommate. I shared a room with a woman that was like 57 years old. She used to leave Jesus pamphlets on my pillow. Not Jesus pamphlet. Yeah, I slept on like a.

07:42 SPEAKER_00 OK. Good morning.

07:45 SPEAKER_01 You love the Lord. Right. You love them, too. It was just really hard. And I felt like I didn't really get to like. Do anything acting until like my fourth year, because I was just trying to survive. Like the first year was terrible. I hated it. I hated it. I hated it with the passion, but I didn't want to go back home because to me, L.A. was just like the only other option. Acting was the only other option because I didn't really know what else I wanted to do. So then my second year, things got like a little easier, but it was still hard. The third year, I kind of figured out how to maneuver L.A., but it was still hard. And then by the fourth year, I figured it figured things out. I got an agent. I booked like my first commercial. And life was a little smooth after that. But then, you know, like things just kept happening here and there. But. It worked out.

08:33 SPEAKER_00 I mean, I guess for me, like I'm a singer and like coming in, like I didn't really come to L.A. to do much of anything but live, to be completely honest. I went to school for broadcast journalism, as you see. But I got here and then like, you know, you just, you know, you meet these artistic friends. One thing about L.A. was like, there was the freedom of being creative and being able to multi like, well, be, I guess, be multi multidimensional and like whether your, you know, your crafts are or whatever the case may be. And that struggle city life is real because like it's like there's no right time to get up and do what you want to do. You just got to do it and like figure it out along the way. And it's like it was it was very hard. Like L.A. is not an easy place. Like it is a place where like you have to buckle down. And sometimes those sacrifices that you have to make. And like you said, like you didn't start doing anything acting until the fourth year. That is some real shit. Like it's like I have to make sure that I can like pay for whatever. I have to make sure that I can go wherever. And if I don't have those means sometimes, you know, there's people working not know that not working in what they want to work on. And they're like, you know, and then also dealing with that mental that mental back and forth in your head, like that doubt creeps in. Like, should I be here? Like, how long can I take this? Like, you know what I mean? The crying at night and stuff like that. So the process of getting to where you want to be is something that we should talk about more because it's not like people see the end product and they think like, oh, well, you got everything together. I see you on this. Yeah, girl, you saw me on that duster day. But like five years prior to that, you might have saw me on the street. Like, you know, like a change. For real. Like, so you know, these conversations really have to be had because like there are people behind us, like I always think about like, you know, like we are, you know, unfortunately, are fortunately, depending on the way you look at it, like we're not always going to be here. So I was thinking like, what am I going to leave behind? Like the only memories that you're going to have or what is going to be shown, how you treat people and stuff like that. So, you know, like I like to think about it that way. Like, yeah, my struggles are real. Yeah, my story is real. But like there's things about that struggle that I did need. You know what I mean? Like, I did need that resilience. So I would say, OK, so you guys do a lot of auditions, like as, you know, we all do a lot of auditions. Tell me one of your funniest audition stories.

10:57 SPEAKER_01 I'll let you go first, because you already sound like you got it. Listen, I did. Oh, my God. I did this thing. I never thought I would do this in life, but it was an audition and it was for something black woman, something. And. Yeah, I never thought I would do this. I never took my wig off and threw it. Yes, for the audition, because it was like at the end of the audition, the black woman supposed to get like mad and angry. And I was it was something. F that. And I and it was. I didn't book it. You didn't book it. No, I didn't book it. That's the commitment, though.

11:38 SPEAKER_00 It was a commitment. Did they laugh? They did. OK, well, then I guess mission accomplished in a sense.

11:45 SPEAKER_01 She said no accomplishment would have been booked. It was so embarrassing. And I and every time I see stuff like that on TV, I'm like, damn, why they don't do that as a black woman, take your wig off and throw it. But I felt like it went with the character. So in my defense. But yeah.

11:58 SPEAKER_02 Yeah. How about you, Taylor? I have a story. It's so cringe. It's I don't know if it's funny. It's just so cringe. Girl, it's so cringe. I get it. Keep thinking about it. OK, so it was kind of as a person who worked in theater, who, you know, did a lot of theater growing up. We move here. You don't just know exactly what to do in an audition. Right. And this was kind of early in my journey. So I got an audition. Somehow I had magically, you know, got an agent and he sent me on. I've been to a few commercial auditions, but this was like a theatrical one. And he sent me on an audition, y'all. And he sent me on the audition. So I go and I'm, you know, practicing my lines. I know my lines. And then I get there and I go in and you know how like right away the energy in the room, they're not feeling you. Right. Right. Right. Right. They're not feeling me. I feel that. They not they not buying what I'm selling. They not picking up what I'm putting down. So they were not feeling me already. And then I did my audition. And I think, OK, what it was, I didn't read the sides thoroughly, to be honest. I wasn't prepared. Right. I was so focused. This is this is a problem. A lot of actors have starting off. I was so focused on the words that I had to say coming out of my mouth. I did not pay attention to like the stage directions. I didn't, you know, I wasn't as thorough as I should have been. So the woman was like a journalist. And I think I thought that she was talking straight to the camera the whole time, you know, just like like this, like talking straight to the camera. And actually, it was just like a it was a radio show. So she was not supposed to be talking to the camera. And so afterwards, like the woman was like. The woman across the room is another black woman. There's another black woman, too, so she wasn't playing with me, you know, and she wasn't playing with me. And she was like. Why did you choose to play the audition to camera? And you know me, I was like, I was just being my sweet little Texas self like, oh, I don't know. I mean, I just thought like I didn't right then when she asked that question, I was like, shit, I misunderstood something, you know, and I was like, oh, I'll try to play it off, you know, charm them like I do most people. So it works out most of the time. So I was like, oh, I don't know. I can do it another way, you know. And she was not she was like, hmm. Yeah, no, she's like, that's OK. And she says. Were you like a pageant girl or something? Oh, it's the hate for me. It's the hate. It's the hate. That's what she said to me. And I was like, no, no, no, I wasn't. I guess I'm just smiley. You know, I didn't know what to say. Like, I was like, am I giving pageant girl? I don't know.

15:07 SPEAKER_00 Maybe are you telling me I need a different job? Like, what's up? Give me the T. You got another role. You got another audition for that.

15:13 SPEAKER_02 Why you got a role for that? Yeah, I was and I felt so icky. And it was just honestly like, it's not what she said. It was like the tone and the way that she said it. You know what I mean? It's probably very condescending. Yes, it was so condescending because, you know, she could have said, oh, did you ever do pageants? Like, you seem like that would have been no. But maybe I should. You know, no, she was baby. She was throwing shade, shade, shade. So, yeah, that's my story.

15:40 SPEAKER_00 I don't know if I have any like funny audition stories, but I remember when I did my first commercial audition and it was like a Christmas one because I used to get sent on a lot of like singing auditions and it was like for this choir or whatever. And I remember I first went in and I had like this ugly sweater kind of Christmas outfit or whatever. And then I and then I came back to the callback. I got a callback. Oh, I don't even do this. I'm just here. Right. I don't even do this. I'm just here. And I got a callback. Like, I was excited about the callback. Fuck the like the actual booking. I was excited about the callback. But this time I wore it. Actually, this is funny. This time I had this Christmas dress on. And I didn't know because I wasn't really trained in that, that like if you get a callback, come in what you were wearing the first time. Right. Like, like look similar. And I came back in this dress that was like a Christmas dress, but it was like tight and it said ho ho ho on it. And body body. It was it was body. And I was like, yeah, I'm back to the. And I looked, I was like, and then I went back to my. She's like, well, what do you think happened? I told her what happened. She's like, well, why did you wear what you had the first time? I was like, I don't know. It was Christmas theme. I wanted to give him a little sass on. Who knows? I don't know why I wore it. But like, nonetheless, that was definitely a lesson learned. Like continuity is real. And whatever they saw the first time, I should have bought back the second time. But I was just like, I couldn't believe that I went to audition with a dress that said ho ho ho on it. I don't know. But it is what it is. It is what it is. So like you guys are young black actresses. And I'm sure that you guys are you know, there's a tight cast situation. There's a bunch of you guys in the room probably look similar to each other. Like, how do you go about like setting yourself differently from everybody, whether it is your audition process or what you're wearing or your demeanor? Like, how do you feel like you personally go about like setting yourself apart?

17:27 SPEAKER_02 I would say the only way to because I, you know, I audition for roles all the time and I see my twins booking them. Like they're going to swear and get a girl. But I think. The only way to do that is really with your authenticity and just lean into what it is. That's what I've learned and that's what I'm trying to do more and more of over the years, because they a lot of times they don't know what they want. You got to show them what it is, what you bring to the character. So be your own unique self and lean into your own strengths and just add your own little pizzazz to it.

18:04 SPEAKER_00 That's what you guys are not being mean girls in the room. You know, like they know shade. Like, you know, how about you, really?

18:14 SPEAKER_01 I would have to say the same authentic authenticity. And I didn't really like start booking commercials until like I went in there as myself and throw them like my southern twang in there. Like I was in a when Dustin Felder was alive. I took his at his studio. I took one of his acting, his commercial classes and the instructor, Marcus Brown. He he was I did a commercial read and then I just, you know, did it in like my professional voice. But he was like, no, you're from the South. I'm from the South. Like throw your little southernness in there. I was like, throw my southernness in there. So I threw it in there and it gave the commercial like a completely different read. So when I went to another commercial audition, I was like, well, let me just like really just just be myself, like if I'm like talking to a friend and and I got on a veil. I didn't book that one, but the next couple of ones I ended up booking. So now when I go into like auditions, even if it's like theatrical, I try to like bring some part of like myself, like how can I make this like more me or like how can I like act like I'm talking to like my friend or my sister or my mama, because we're real country. So I don't always do like my country, like my southern accent, even though it's there, even like I'm not trying to do it right now, but it's still coming out. I still try to just give it more me and how would I like handle that situation and be true to like who I am for the character?

19:35 SPEAKER_00 I mean, that's all you could do, right? Like it's like it's it's it's it's not necessarily that hard. It's just kind of like most of the time, the answer is you. Like it is you betting on you. It is you believing in you. And sometimes, you know, especially in Hollywood, you know, it's the typecasting, it's the pitting against each other. It's the oh, well, you look like this person. Can you do it like this? And most of the time you're winning when you're being yourself. So like that's definitely a good point to make about being often like, you know, being authentic and, you know, because at the end of the day, even whether you book the role or not or book a job or not, it's like you only live with yourself and you have to feel good with yourself. So even if you don't book it, as long as you know, you were being you. Like you can move on to the next. It's usually the times that we're like trying to do something else and it doesn't work. Like, why did we do this? Like, you know what I mean? It's like, why would I why would I act like that? Or why would I say that? Like, what's going on? I know I know what to do. You know what I mean? So it's like I feel you on that. So in your dreams of dreams, right? Who would you want to be your co-star? It could be male or female or both. Like, who is your dream co-star? I have a few. OK, tell them. List them. Rock it down. Scroll it out.

20:42 SPEAKER_02 I really want to manifestation. I really want to work with Mrs. Angela Bassett. Yeah, Auntie Angie. Viola Davis, you know, the greats. And then also in my mind right now, I'm also writing some stuff on my own. And if I could work. My dream casting is for me and Miss Jennifer Lewis to work together. Oh, yeah. Yes. Yes. That's the mother of Hollywood.

21:08 SPEAKER_00 Yeah. Jennifer Lewis is the best. Like she's like, it's like one of those people. There's two people that I think get paid to be themselves. Like, it's not necessarily they're doing anything different or they're like touching deep down inside. Like Viola Davis, she's taking you on a journey. But like there's two. Jennifer Lewis, she literally gets paid to be herself. Like, it doesn't matter what role it is. It's that's who she is. Samuel Jackson. He gets paid to be Samuel Jackson in different costumes. Like that is Samuel Jackson, whether he's on the plane, whether he's in Django. Like that's Samuel Jackson and Will Smith to Will Smith gets made to be Will Smith. Like it's like it's like one of those things. But it goes back to what I was saying about being authentic. Like authentic. Why can't we speak today? But it is what it is. Y'all know what we're talking about. They'll put it on the bottom of the screen. You'll get what I'm saying. But like I think that is so cool because it's kind of like, you know, the rest of us got to be deep. Like you got to change your accent, change your clothes. And these people show these motherfuckers show it up. We're getting 100 million dollar checks.

22:06 SPEAKER_01 How about you, Bri? I would have to say Michael B. Jordan. I love him. Like his love interest. Yeah, love interest. OK. Michael B. Meryl Streep. Freaking love Meryl Streep. I love Meryl. Julia Roberts, just like a lot of my old faves. Julia Roberts. Halle Berry. Miss Berry.

22:29 SPEAKER_00 Please. I love her. Would she be your mom and your sister, your auntie or your opposite? Like, are you are you like Glinda the Good Witch? And she's like the wicked witch, wicked witch of the West? Like, how is that dynamic?

22:43 SPEAKER_01 What would you see that? Well, I don't want her to play my mama.

22:47 SPEAKER_00 Maybe like. Auntie. I mean, no, Shay. She's getting into mama era. I would like to see. I don't think I've ever seen her be a mom. Other than like kidnapping. Well, that one, I'm talking about like like a grown kid. Like, you know, she usually has like a baby.

23:02 SPEAKER_02 She could be a fine auntie. Right.

23:04 SPEAKER_01 Yeah. Fine auntie. Yeah. OK. So who's my fine auntie?

23:07 SPEAKER_00 I love I like groups of like actors that like act together. And one of my favorite movies is First Wise Club, because I love Goldie Ha. I love Diane Keaton. I love Bette Midler. I love all those biddies. And I would literally want to take them and just put me in the middle of that. Yeah. I see what happened. But like on my black lady side, you know, definitely Jennifer Lewis, definitely Viola Davis, Taraji P. Henson, like I think that would be fun. Like we were like, I feel like being on a costar, like being a costar with her doing a film, like it would definitely be some comedy. Wild shit, because that shit would be hilarious to me, because I think she is hella funny and I think that she is so talented. As far as a guy is concerned, it would be a juice elbow for me. Like, like, and that would have to be a love interest for me. And then like a like a young girl crush, Morris Chestnut, that would have to like he could be my daddy. I got a game that we were talking about our costars and stuff like that. And I want to do a game. Who would you want to on like on set kiss? All right. You're going to do this and that.

24:16 SPEAKER_01 We get options. Yeah. I'm going to give you the options, girl.

24:19 SPEAKER_00 I want to give you the options. You ready? Yes. All right. Boris Kujo or Morris Chestnut.

24:25 SPEAKER_02 Boris Kujo. Oh, good, because I got more. Girl, I was going to say we ain't spent a fight.

24:36 SPEAKER_00 I mean, I love them both. I'll take them both. OK, Idris Elba or Dwayne The Rock Johnson. Idris. Idris. Absolutely. Absolutely. OK, so OK, I always say his name wrong, so don't get mad at me. Is it Demson Idris? Oh, damn. Damn. Demson Idris or Michael B. Jordan?

24:56 SPEAKER_01 Oh, Michael B. My baby daddy.

24:57 SPEAKER_02 Oh, he's your baby daddy. I don't know. These are some good options.

25:02 SPEAKER_00 Oh, not this. Not the body rolls. I can feel it in the air. You got to answer one of the other. I'm going to go with Michael B. Michael B. OK, you got to Michael B. Tune in. There's people that watching you. OK, Samuel L. Jackson or Loris Fishburne?

25:27 SPEAKER_02 Girl, you played too much.

25:32 SPEAKER_01 You got a big one. Loris Fishburne when he was on Tina. Tina Ike. Tina Ike.

25:37 SPEAKER_02 You like saying he's throwing around. I'm going to go with Loris Fishburne, Circa Boys in the Hood. I'm going to go with Samuel Jackson all day.

25:48 SPEAKER_00 You know, I'm going to go with Samuel Jackson because he's hilarious. Like, I just think it would be funny. I think it's funny. He's hilarious to me. Like, he truly makes me laugh. OK, Eddie Murphy or Martin Lawrence? Martin. Eddie. I'm going to go with Eddie. I think Eddie was cute. I mean, he was cute. He had the red pants on. And even now, I think he's aged better than Martin Lawrence. Oh, Martin did put on a little weight. Yeah, he was like put on a little weight, you know, whatever. But, you know, like Martin is funny. You know, like I think they're the greats. And like, Eddie Murphy don't look bad now. Like he got his little old man glasses going on. Like he could get it. He could get it. All right. I got another one.

26:26 SPEAKER_01 Danny Glover or Morgan Freeman? You are so wrong. You are so wrong. The viewers want to know. You know, we ain't never seen Morgan Freeman young.

26:39 SPEAKER_00 No. We ain't never seen him. I mean, granddad versus granddad. That's what we're looking at. Lord Jesus. I'm going to go with Danny Glover. Danny Glover. I'll do Danny Glover. Oh, Morgan, they said no. They said no, Morgan. They don't want the guy that narrates the whales. OK, Taye Diggs or Kevin Hart. Taye Diggs. They want you to look at my face. I know Taye Diggs is fine, but Kevin has gotten very good looking over the years. Like he's he's he's working out like this. He's a little no, no, no. No, he's no. Kevin, they try to play you. They try to play you, Kevin. You watch it, Kevin. Tune in. Tune in. I see you. OK, well, I guess I will. My next question will be to you ladies. I want to know. I like to leave messages on this show. Basically, you know, because we got to talk to the people behind us. You know, like the people did before us. Like what advice would you give? Like as far as somebody who may be doubting themselves by saying, like, you know, it's hard. It's you know what I mean? Like I'm running into challenges and I'm doubting that this is even what I'm supposed to be doing. What kind of advice or, you know, non advice? Maybe you want to be like, maybe this ain't for you. I don't know. But like, what would you tell them?

28:06 SPEAKER_02 I would say I think that there's so much joy on the other side of these hard times. So just keep going through it so you can get to it. But also, I think prioritize your creativity, even if it's just for 30 minutes, if you want to, you know, do some sort of activity, like even if it's just writing something, you know, doing sometimes doing yoga, like clear your head a little bit. Prioritize your creativity and then also follow your own bliss, because there's no one way to success. Right. So I started in theater and also a lot of people say in L.A. like in L.A., there's not a lot of like lucrative theater. You know what I mean? You're not going to make a lot of money. But that doing a lot of theater has introduced me to the majority of the people who have built my network, people who have kept me alive and thriving, you know, during those hard times. And then also those relationships planted the seed. I planted the seed in the theater towards when those people were writing films, they were casting me in it. You know, when they're directing a film, they're casting me in it. So just keep working away and do what do what moves you, whether that's social media, whether that's writing, whether that's doing the theater, whether they're starting a podcast.

29:34 SPEAKER_01 There are no specific there's no specific steps laid out to success. That's what I would say. OK. I would have to say just. Take a step back if you need to, because I feel like I've been going through that, like I've been going hard for like eight. Well, I feel like I've been going hard. I wouldn't know harder, but I feel like I've been going hard for like eight years and I've been exhausted because I've just been like trying to do acting, trying to get to the next gig, trying to like book the next job. And I feel like I've burnt myself out. So I would just say like, really, just take time for yourself and try to focus on things outside of whatever it is that you're trying to do, like if it's acting, if it's modeling, if it's writing or whatever, because I never really like have taken time for myself. I've never really like gone on a trip. I've never really like done any of the things that I like on Instagram. And I see other people doing so. That's what I'm trying to do right now. So just maybe taking a break from it, step back from it and then return to it and see how you feel about it.

30:32 SPEAKER_00 I feel that. I mean, that goes into kind of segue what I would say. I feel like the biggest thing for me, I guess I would give out is, show up for yourself and be kind to yourself and give yourself grace. Because like anything or any industry or whatever you decide to do, it's always some type of figuring out like there is a map. There's no wrong or right way to take that map. There's no time limit on whatever you want to go. And if you really set yourself up on your goals and you're literally actively pushing towards those goals, eventually it'll happen. Right. It'll happen maybe. And also, too, sometimes it might not be in the way that you thought it was going to happen. Like it may come up to be something way more beautiful and may more excite like exciting for you. And maybe it might turn you into a different career or a different stage. Like you may start off acting. You may start singing next. You know, you're directing a movie. Like there's so many beautiful things that can happen when you show up for yourself. So that's what I would say. Show for yourself. Like, like good and bad, because we just don't know. At the end of the day. Well, you know, I want to thank you guys for coming on my show. And I think that the biggest thing about this is building the community. And I really want to make sure that we're being seen in all facets of life, whether we're just talking, shooting a shit or really saying some things. And I, you know, you guys are really pushing what you're doing and you guys are getting to where you guys want to be. So like, can we find you guys anywhere right now?

32:01 SPEAKER_02 Like, where can where can they like look you up? I'm on Instagram at Taylor Lee Edwards. L E I G H is how that's spelled. And I'm also on IMDB Taylor Lee Edwards. I'm also currently I have a film being released later this summer. It's called Black Terror. So be on the lookout for that. We're premiering at Cannes in two weeks. So keep your eyes peeled.

32:26 SPEAKER_00 Yes, yes, yes, yes.

32:29 SPEAKER_01 Where can we find you, Brett? You can find me on Instagram at with the love L O V E underscore B R I T T A N Y with love underscore Britney. And I'm on IMDB Pro. Britney Carr, the third, but I'm not the third because everybody else took the pain.

32:47 SPEAKER_00 Oh, thank you, ladies, again, for coming on the show. And thank you guys for tuning in. If you guys have any questions or you can relate to anything we've talked about today, please leave a comment, like, subscribe, share. If there's anything you want to pick apart and you all want us to talk about next time, let me know that too. And that's it. That's all. That's it. That's all is written by me, Casey Carnage, and produced by myself and Rick Bario-Dill. Executive producer is Duff Ferguson. Our senior producer is Sabrina Seward, associate producer Brie Corrie, audio and video engineering and studio facilities provided by Slap Studios L.A. with distribution through our collective for social progress and cultural expression, Slap the Network. If you have any ideas for a show you want to hear or see, please email us at info at slapthepower.com. And as always, go to DasIt, DasAll.com and sign up there to make sure you will never miss a thing. See you next show.